Updated: April 02, 2021 02:12 PM
Created: April 02, 2021 05:35 AM
The court has adjourned for the day. They will be back on Monday at 9:30 a.m.
The court has reconvened. Zimmerman retakes the witness stand.
Zimmerman again touches on the fact that how Chauvin handled the situation was "uncalled for" to the state prosecutor. Defense attorney Eric Nelson takes over.
Nelson clarifies that Zimmerman hasn't worked on street patrol exclusively for a long time, and Zimmerman notes he hasn't been involved in a physical altercation since 2018.
N: You would agree that or I'm presuming that, since 1985 until the present day, tactics have changed as a police officer.— Ana Lastra (@AnaViLastra) April 2, 2021
Z: Some tactics have changed. Yes
N: You do not teach other police officers defensive tactics?
Z: No I don't. #DerekChauvinTrial pic.twitter.com/TJd97tuUlh
Nelson asked, "a police officer's responsibility is to keep the scene secure and safe, agreed?" Zimmerman agreed.
N: If you have to use force against 1 person to avoid using force against others, that's a factor that an officer should consider agreed?— Ana Lastra (@AnaViLastra) April 2, 2021
Z: I don't know if I would agree with that.
N: Within the training dept. people...that they may be better to answer those questions.
He was also asked by Nelson if an individual who is handcuffed can still pose a threat, to which Zimmerman replied, "Um, I suppose they could, yeah."
Zimmerman agrees that the body camera is only so effective to show what the body camera sees and not what the officer sees.
The lieutenant states that there was no threat at the scene in regards to bystanders.
"Unless there a crowd is attacking you, it shouldn't really have an effect on your actions," he said.
The court has taken a recess for 20 minutes. Zimmerman remains on the witness stand.
The next witness takes the stand, Lt. Richard Zimmerman with the Minneapolis Police Department.
Zimmerman has been in law enforcement since 1981. He started his career with MPD in 1985. Before that, he worked as an officer in southeastern Minnesota. From 1995 to the present, he has worked on the homicide unit.
Zimmerman says he is the "number one" officer when it comes to seniority in the department. He also is "extremely experienced" in testifying at trials.
He was called to the scene of 38th Street and Chicago Avenue on May 25, 2020. Based on what he was told, he assumed that Lane and Kueng were involved with the incident. Zimmerman said he requested more officers to the scene to assist with questioning possible witnesses and locating video. The video he mentions relates to Milestone Cameras — the city-owned surveillance cameras. There are multiple in that area.
KSTP reporter Eric Chaloux said Zimmerman is one of 14 MPD officers that wrote a letter last June condemning Chauvin's actions.
At about 11 p.m., the BCA took over the crime scene, according to Zimmerman.
Zimmerman testified that every officer, even high-ranking officers like himself, has to complete use of force training once a year. He also explained the use of force continuum in the department's policy. He stated the five levels as "presence, verbal skills, soft technique — escort by arm, hard technique — mace, handcuffs, and deadly force."
Zimmerman said that he has never been trained to "kneel on the neck of someone who is handcuffed behind their back" in his time with MPD. He adds it's an officer's "responsibility" to focus on the safety and well-being of someone who is handcuffed.
He testified that "the threat level is just not there" once someone is handcuffed. He also mentioned that having someone handcuffed can make muscles pull back, causing a "constriction of breathing."
Now on prone position...— Ana Lastra (@AnaViLastra) April 2, 2021
Z: "You need to turn them on their side, or have them sit up. You need to get them off their chest...As I have mentioned earlier, your muscles are pulling back, when you're handcuffed....That's constricting your breathing, even more.
He also clarified that officers should provide medical support while waiting for EMS or the fire department.
The court is in session. The first witness asked to the witness stand on Friday is Sgt. Jon Edwards with the Minneapolis Police Department. He was part of the Community Response Team (CRT) and the community engagement unit. Edwards says he is on leave at the moment, but prior to going on leave he was assigned to the 3rd Precinct dogwatch shift. He's one of three sergeants on that shift.
Edwards says he recognizes Chauvin but never was his direct supervisor. He adds that Lane and Kueng did a rotation on his shift at one point, back when they were both still working with FTO.
He also testified that then-Sgt. David Pleoger called him to say he was at the hospital with a male "that he described may or may not live." He was asked by Pleoger to "secure that area and make contact with any of his officers ... because this was a potential to be a possible critical incident," in regards to 38th Street and Chicago Avenue.
Schleicher asks Edwards about body cameras and making sure they are active.— Ana Lastra (@AnaViLastra) April 2, 2021
Edwards says yes. He arrived at 38th & Chicago around 9:35 p.m. #DerekChauvinTrial
He states when he arrived on scene, there weren't many people around, just former officers Kueng and Lane. Edwards told both officers if their body cameras were not on, they were told to put them on. They both did.
Edwards stated at that point he "didn't know specifics" and was waiting to hear from Pleoger. He had additional officers report to the scene to keep it secure. He told state prosecutor Steve Schleicher that he didn't know Chauvin was involved at that point.
He adds that "maybe eight to 10" officers helped that night, both helping out at the scene and other calls.
He ended up telling Kueng and Lane to get out of their squad car and leave their belongings inside so that the BCA could take it into custody. He also advised both officers to "chill out" because Edwards knew that escort sergeants were coming to get them for questioning.
Edwards mentioned he spoke with 61-year-old Charles McMillian, who only identified himself as Charles to Edwards.
"He told me he refused to say anything and wondered if he was under arrest," he stated, adding he told Charles he was not under arrest.
Edwards tells the court that Pleoger asked him to speak to the manager at Cup Foods. Edwards says he had a brief conversation with the manager who told him he didn't witness anything that happened.
Edwards was informed that Floyd had died after 10 p.m. Once the squad car and Floyd's SUV were towed, the crime scene tape was taken down at the scene shortly thereafter.
The defense does not cross-examine this witness, excusing him from the witness stand.
Testimony will continue Friday morning in the trial of former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin.
Thursday, first responders took the stand to tell the jury what they saw the day George Floyd died.
Two paramedics who responded to the 911 call testified Floyd did not have a pulse right when they arrived.
Additionally, a Minneapolis police supervisory sergeant who was on duty the night Floyd died testified that he believes the officers who restrained Floyd could have ended it after he stopped resisting. Pressed by a prosecutor as to when Floyd was no longer resisting, David Pleoger said it was once Floyd was handcuffed and on the ground.
Earlier Thursday, Floyd's girlfriend testified about how they met and how they both struggled with opioid use.
Friday, Minneapolis Police Chief Medaria Arradondo could take the stand. During a news conference Thursday, Arradondo was asked about the trial and said he hasn't watched it because he will be testifying.
Court is scheduled to resume shortly after 9 a.m.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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