I-35W shooting suspect said bus driver tried to run him over, 911 transcripts show

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February 13, 2019 03:01 PM

A St. Paul man charged with second-degree attempted murder after shooting at a bus driver on Interstate 35W near Chicago Avenue earlier this month said the bus driver tried to run him over, according to 911 transcripts.

Kenneth Lilly, 31, was charged last Thursday with one count of second-degree attempted murder and one count of second-degree assault in connection to the incident on Feb. 5.

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According to a criminal complaint, Minneapolis police officers were called to a shooting on I-35W after the bus scraped Lilly's car. The complaint says Lilly then stopped his car in the lane of traffic and walked toward the bus, approached the passenger door of the bus and attempted to get on.

The driver told Lilly he could not get on because a child was onboard. 


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The complaint said video showed Lilly walking toward the front of the bus when the bus appeared to slowly pull into traffic.

The complaint goes on to say Lilly then pulled out a pistol and fired five shots at the windshield of the bus. The school bus driver suffered a wound to his left arm and a graze wound on his head, according to the complaint.

After firing the shots, Lilly called 911. 

According to the 911 transcript, Lilly told dispatchers that he tried to get the bus driver's information, but the driver tried to drive past him and nearly ran him over.

"Then a self-defense incident occurred because he tried to run me over. So shots have been fired," Lilly said, according to the transcript.

Later, the dispatcher asks, "Was he shot or was it a car accident? Or both?"

"No. No. It was a car accident. I got out. I tried to get information. When I stood in front of the car he tried to run me over," Lilly responded, according to the transcript.

"We do not believe there was a self-defense based on the evidence we have received so far," Chief Deputy Hennepin County Attorney David Brown said two days after the incident.

An 8-year-old girl on the school bus when the shooting happened was not physically injured.

According to the transcript, Lilly said he didn't think anyone else was on the bus.

DISPATCH: "Ok do you know if there's anyone on the bus?"

LILLY: "I don't think so. I think he's just driving by himself. Some old guy."

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